Discussion:
[DRMAA-WG] Fwd: News on SAGA
Peter Tröger
2012-04-16 19:34:50 UTC
Permalink
FYI - DRMAA is well-known in India and China. Just wow ...

Is there any existing DRMAA Java implementation that does NOT rely on
JNI ? From what I know, the answer is no.

Best regards,
Peter.

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: News on SAGA
Datum: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:51:07 +0200
Von: Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net>
An: Sylvain Reynaud <Sylvain.Reynaud at in2p3.fr>
Kopie (CC): giuseppe.andronico at ct.infn.it
<giuseppe.andronico at ct.infn.it>, Diego Orazio Scardaci
<diego.scardaci at ct.infn.it>, Roberto Barbera
<roberto.barbera at ct.infn.it>, Shantenu Jha <shantenu.jha at rutgers.edu>,
Troeger, Peter <peter.troeger at hpi.uni-potsdam.de>

Hi again,

I Cc Peter Troeger of DRMAA fame, as he will be able to give a more
qualified answer about the state of the DRMAA Java implementations.

Cheers, Andre.


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Sylvain Reynaud
Hi all,
Like Andre said, it seems there is no full java implementation of DRMAA, and
the one for your targeted system also relies on JNI to wrap the C API.
Andre, is the Java wrapper for DRMAA you are mentioning independent from
any middleware? If so, do you have some link to this project?
Giuseppe, please keep us informed about your direction for supporting the
DRMAA interfaces.
Best regards,
Sylvain
Dear Andre,
of course we are quite interested in this SAGA/DRMAA interfaces. Could
you send us URL to documentaton and/or code?
Perhaps we could find some resources to work on this.
About India DRMAAv.1 is perfectly OK. For China we can try to interest
them on v.1 and see if they are available to work on v.2.
Thank you
Best regards
Giuseppe Andronico
Dear Giuseppe,
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Giuseppe Andronico
Dear Andre, Sylvain,
the guy working on GOS adapter for JSAGA in Beijing released the adapter
and we are going to test it in next days, during the EPIKH school in
Beijing, with the support of Diego that already integrated the released
code in our Science Gateway.
Sounds like progress :-) Good luck with the testing!
Also I tried to understand some more about the DRMAA adapter for
SAGA/JSAGA, but it looks like there were some studies but no
implementation. Also I tried to contact Peter Troger by email, but the
mail address in his business card is not recognized any more.
Please use this one: "Peter Tr?ger"<peter at troeger.eu>
FWIW, there is in fact a DRMAA adaptor for SAGA-C++, which uses the
varius DRMAA libraries available for schedulers (PBS, SGE, Condor,
...). We plan to also develop a DRMAA adaptor for our new python
implementation (there is a DRMAA python binding in pypi) -- but that
is not yet available. IIRC, there is also a Java wrapper for DRMAA,
which can use the very same drmaa libs. OTOH, I don't think there is
a clean Java stack for DRMAA.
The above is all about DRMAAv.1 -- DRMAAv.2 was recently published,
and implementations are slowly emerging. Just mentioning... :-)
DRMAA is important for us for the infrastructure in India and could be
some interest is in China.
Interesting! Please let us know if you need more information about
DRMAA / SAGA...
Best, Andre.
Best regards
Giuseppe Andronico
Rayson Ho
2012-04-16 19:54:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Peter Tröger
FYI - DRMAA is well-known in India and China. Just wow ...
Is there any existing DRMAA Java implementation that does NOT rely on JNI ?
From what I know, the answer is no.
And if I recall correctly, everyone's implementation is based on Grid
Engine's JNI library - but I could be wrong.

Rayson
Post by Peter Tröger
Best regards,
Peter.
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: News on SAGA
Datum: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:51:07 +0200
Von: Andre Merzky <andre at merzky.net>
An: Sylvain Reynaud <Sylvain.Reynaud at in2p3.fr>
Kopie (CC): giuseppe.andronico at ct.infn.it <giuseppe.andronico at ct.infn.it>,
Diego Orazio Scardaci <diego.scardaci at ct.infn.it>, Roberto Barbera
<roberto.barbera at ct.infn.it>, Shantenu Jha <shantenu.jha at rutgers.edu>,
Troeger, Peter <peter.troeger at hpi.uni-potsdam.de>
Hi again,
I Cc Peter Troeger of DRMAA fame, as he will be able to give a more
qualified answer about the state of the DRMAA Java implementations.
Cheers, Andre.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Sylvain Reynaud
Hi all,
Like Andre said, it seems there is no full java implementation of DRMAA, and
the one for your targeted system also relies on JNI to wrap the C API.
Andre, is the Java wrapper for DRMAA you are mentioning independent from
any middleware? If so, do you have some link to this project?
Giuseppe, please keep us informed about your direction for supporting the
DRMAA interfaces.
Best regards,
Sylvain
Dear Andre,
of course we are quite interested in this SAGA/DRMAA interfaces. Could
you send us URL to documentaton and/or code?
Perhaps we could find some resources to work on this.
About India DRMAAv.1 is perfectly OK. For China we can try to interest
them on v.1 and see if they are available to work on v.2.
Thank you
Best regards
Giuseppe Andronico
Dear Giuseppe,
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Giuseppe Andronico
Dear Andre, Sylvain,
the guy working on GOS adapter for JSAGA in Beijing released the adapter
and we are going to test it in next days, during the EPIKH school in
Beijing, with the support of Diego that already integrated the released
code in our Science Gateway.
Sounds like progress :-) ?Good luck with the testing!
Also I tried to understand some more about the DRMAA adapter for
SAGA/JSAGA, but it looks like there were some studies but no
implementation. Also I tried to contact Peter Troger by email, but the
mail address in his business card is not recognized any more.
Please use this one: "Peter Tr?ger"<peter at troeger.eu>
FWIW, there is in fact a DRMAA adaptor for SAGA-C++, which uses the
varius DRMAA libraries available for schedulers (PBS, SGE, Condor,
...). ?We plan to also develop a DRMAA adaptor for our new python
implementation (there is a DRMAA python binding in pypi) -- but that
is not yet available. ?IIRC, there is also a Java wrapper for DRMAA,
which can use the very same drmaa libs. ?OTOH, I don't think there is
a clean Java stack for DRMAA.
The above is all about DRMAAv.1 -- DRMAAv.2 was recently published,
and implementations are slowly emerging. ?Just mentioning... :-)
DRMAA is important for us for the infrastructure in India and could be
some interest is in China.
Interesting! ?Please let us know if you need more information about
DRMAA / SAGA...
Best, Andre.
Best regards
Giuseppe Andronico
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